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Wednesday
09Sep2009

#BISG Tweet Archive 090909

DateWednesday, September 9, 2009 at 11:41AM
Because I am a total geek, I've archived the tweets from this morning's Book Industry Study Group annual meeting. I find it fascinating. If you, like me, enjoy listening in on what smart bookish techy types discuss when they get together, here's your chance. While it's not exactly on par with my "Johnny Depp/George Clooney to Save Publishing" post, it is pretty good stuff.
Cheers,
~ Kat
At #BISG annual mtg
Posted by ljndawson on Wed Sep 9th at 6:33:40 AM (msg id: 3863048942)
At my first #bisg annual meeting
Posted by meyercarol on Wed Sep 9th at 6:34:35 AM (msg id: 3863063586)
@draccah – #BISG is growing in relevance (I'm a little skeptical); looking for new executive director
Posted by ftoolan on Wed Sep 9th at 6:43:50 AM (msg id: 3863215116)
The traditional poem: "That is the book. That is what we do." #BISG
Posted by ljndawson on Wed Sep 9th at 6:44:13 AM (msg id: 3863221491)
#BISG - wonder why there were no new directors elected this year
Posted by ftoolan on Wed Sep 9th at 6:45:48 AM (msg id: 3863248321)
Michael Healy remembers Jean Srnecz. #BISG
Posted by ljndawson on Wed Sep 9th at 6:47:21 AM (msg id: 3863274155)
Financial review--Books rights registry reimbursing BISG $20K/month for expenses #bisg
Posted by meyercarol on Wed Sep 9th at 6:48:41 AM (msg id: 3863295924)
Slow wifi and a cold cold room #BISG
Posted by ljndawson on Wed Sep 9th at 6:52:42 AM (msg id: 3863362535)
@mhealy #BISG some new members, some lost... hope to get some back, some have closed doors
Posted by ftoolan on Wed Sep 9th at 6:53:16 AM (msg id: 3863371867)
Michael Healy : upcoming book Digital Book Publishing for Dummies due Nov 09 #bisg
Posted by meyercarol on Wed Sep 9th at 6:54:41 AM (msg id: 3863394958)
#BISG - publishing a book with Wiley: Digital Book Print for Dummies; Nov 2009; sponsored Ingram/;ightning; HP; Amzn
Posted by ftoolan on Wed Sep 9th at 6:55:33 AM (msg id: 3863409771)
Healy: Book Industry Trends--Outsell is new research partner #bisg
Posted by meyercarol on Wed Sep 9th at 6:56:37 AM (msg id: 3863428590)
Healy: NISO collabortion on emerging standards #bisg
Posted by meyercarol on Wed Sep 9th at 6:58:48 AM (msg id: 3863465610)
#BISG - PDCP product data certification program Harlequin & Macmillan new;y certified this year. slow adoption by publishers
Posted by ftoolan on Wed Sep 9th at 7:00:32 AM (msg id: 3863496998)
#BISG Environmental and Climate issues are a big part of org
Posted by ftoolan on Wed Sep 9th at 7:01:35 AM (msg id: 3863516158)
#bisg Oops collaboration, not collabortion!
Posted by meyercarol on Wed Sep 9th at 7:01:52 AM (msg id: 3863521087)
RT @ljndawson: The traditional poem: "That is the book. That is what we do." #BISG - How true, how elegiac
Posted by bookstothesky on Wed Sep 9th at 7:03:59 AM (msg id: 3863558837)
#BISG Digital Standards - Book Drop standard - digital reading online protocol adopted
Posted by ftoolan on Wed Sep 9th at 7:04:12 AM (msg id: 3863563001)
Yes, EDI is boring. I say this as an ISBN geek. Grateful 4 those who like 2 think about it. #BISG
Posted by ljndawson on Wed Sep 9th at 7:06:22 AM (msg id: 3863601445)
#BISG publication of ONIX 3.0 digital products; sets & series; code list 10
Posted by ftoolan on Wed Sep 9th at 7:06:35 AM (msg id: 3863605187)
#BISG Pub/Indepedent Whlesalers Group - metadata extension for books for GDSN - GS1 adopts ONIX for the GDSN framework
Posted by ftoolan on Wed Sep 9th at 7:08:52 AM (msg id: 3863644374)
Michael Healy thanks audience, staff, committees, board for their support over past 3 years. #bisg
Posted by meyercarol on Wed Sep 9th at 7:10:46 AM (msg id: 3863678566)
Dominique Raccah up next: looking forward #bisg
Posted by meyercarol on Wed Sep 9th at 7:13:06 AM (msg id: 3863720885)
Raccah: Transition requires new attention to priorities emphasize supply chain but include both physical and digital books. #bisg
Posted by meyercarol on Wed Sep 9th at 7:15:11 AM (msg id: 3863758149)
Exec director search, new mission statement to include digital products -#BISG
Posted by ljndawson on Wed Sep 9th at 7:15:52 AM (msg id: 3863770358)
Raccah: Develop new programs & services with new partners, what are priorities? This is a shift. #bisg
Posted by meyercarol on Wed Sep 9th at 7:16:58 AM (msg id: 3863790141)
#BISG @draccah new programs and services on top of 69 current activities
Posted by ftoolan on Wed Sep 9th at 7:18:13 AM (msg id: 3863812269)
#BISG @draccah - exec board added 40 potential new ones and will send it to the membership for consult - brainstorming via email
Posted by ftoolan on Wed Sep 9th at 7:19:26 AM (msg id: 3863833018)
Oh Lawdy, #BISG is brainstorming new projects!
Posted by ljndawson on Wed Sep 9th at 7:19:58 AM (msg id: 3863841911)
#BISG prioritized list by November board meeting?
Posted by ftoolan on Wed Sep 9th at 7:21:36 AM (msg id: 3863871441)
Raccah: Need to be a more agile organization #bisg
Posted by meyercarol on Wed Sep 9th at 7:22:28 AM (msg id: 3863886473)
#BISG is going to be moving faster with more agility; need for DATA; new revenue streams; new services; need active participation
Posted by ftoolan on Wed Sep 9th at 7:23:48 AM (msg id: 3863909515)
as indie pub, #BISG data is too infrequent, too coarse -- needs to get more granular, more timely - how about partnering with BookScan?
Posted by nimblebooks on Wed Sep 9th at 7:30:16 AM (msg id: 3864026974)
Mark Bide: Is the ISBN Dead? up next #bisg
Posted by meyercarol on Wed Sep 9th at 7:54:37 AM (msg id: 3864475509)
#BISG Mark Bide is the ISBN dead @personanondata
Posted by ftoolan on Wed Sep 9th at 7:55:52 AM (msg id: 3864499322)
Bide: Extended version of presentation will be available via webcast next week #bisg
Posted by meyercarol on Wed Sep 9th at 7:56:07 AM (msg id: 3864503712)
@meyercarol Discussion of ISBN is something I am eager to hear about. Keep tweeting from #bisg (pls).
Posted by jillmwo on Wed Sep 9th at 7:56:20 AM (msg id: 3864507991)
Is the ISBN dead?Mark Bide is telling us. It is a loaded question, of course. #BISG
Posted by ljndawson on Wed Sep 9th at 7:56:35 AM (msg id: 3864512517)
#BISG MB ISBN may not be meeting its market need (via @personanondata)
Posted by ftoolan on Wed Sep 9th at 7:58:38 AM (msg id: 3864551867)
RT @ftoolan: #BISG MB ISBN may not be meeting its market need (via @personanondata)
Posted by ljndawson on Wed Sep 9th at 7:59:06 AM (msg id: 3864560402)
Bide: Talk responds to Cairns blog post: The ISBN is dead: http://tinyurl.com/lalmr8 #bisg
Posted by meyercarol on Wed Sep 9th at 7:59:20 AM (msg id: 3864564613)
Bide: Why do we need idenitifiers:?unique, collocation, disambiguation #bisg
Posted by meyercarol on Wed Sep 9th at 8:00:27 AM (msg id: 3864587229)
Bide: supply chain identifiers require standards because it is hard to aggregate stuff otherwise. #bisg
Posted by meyercarol on Wed Sep 9th at 8:01:15 AM (msg id: 3864603453)
Bide: Everybody needs to understand the semantics of identifiers. #bisg
Posted by meyercarol on Wed Sep 9th at 8:02:03 AM (msg id: 3864618555)
Bide: ISBN does a bunch of stuff it was never designed to do. Eg. the "master" isbn, royalties, etc. Massive prob digitally #bisg
Posted by meyercarol on Wed Sep 9th at 8:02:45 AM (msg id: 3864632063)
#BISG does the ISBN really need to be used throughout the supply chain?
Posted by ftoolan on Wed Sep 9th at 8:03:09 AM (msg id: 3864639823)
Bide: Granuarlity of digital use is creating crashing of uses for ISBNs #bisg
Posted by meyercarol on Wed Sep 9th at 8:03:22 AM (msg id: 3864644267)
Bide: ISBN came into use in the early 70s. Designers never liked bar codes. When WH Smith said no code, no sale, then they were OK! #bisg
Posted by meyercarol on Wed Sep 9th at 8:04:24 AM (msg id: 3864663733)
Bide doing a great job explicating some of the history - we have been here b4, in other words. #BISG
Posted by ljndawson on Wed Sep 9th at 8:04:47 AM (msg id: 3864671339)
Bide: Nobody cares how your digital asset mgt system talks to your royalty system. The ISBN in the wild is what's important. #bisg
Posted by meyercarol on Wed Sep 9th at 8:05:13 AM (msg id: 3864679649)
Bide: ISBN set the rule that separate monographs & editions should have separate ISBNs in order to gather sales & usage data #bisg
Posted by meyercarol on Wed Sep 9th at 8:06:15 AM (msg id: 3864699678)
Bide: Some publishers don't want to put separate ISBNs on different digital versions. Many reasons, ie internal systems requirements. #bisg
Posted by meyercarol on Wed Sep 9th at 8:07:00 AM (msg id: 3864714230)
#BISG MB ease of trading; discovery;
Posted by ftoolan on Wed Sep 9th at 8:07:05 AM (msg id: 3864715515)
Bide: But will the customers be happy one ISBN for all ebooks across formats. JISC wants ISBN by channel. #bisg
Posted by meyercarol on Wed Sep 9th at 8:07:54 AM (msg id: 3864730881)
#BISG MB argues that isbns should be applied to every format of every product.... imho this is unworkable
Posted by ftoolan on Wed Sep 9th at 8:08:23 AM (msg id: 3864739922)
Bide: Options: Vendor assigned proprietary identifiers.... ie Amazon ASIC --disad for libraries, hard to collect data for publishers #bisg
Posted by meyercarol on Wed Sep 9th at 8:09:13 AM (msg id: 3864755344)
Bide: Disaster: "Fake" ISBNs look like ISBNs to meet internal systems, but some escape into the wild. Yikes! #bisg
Posted by meyercarol on Wed Sep 9th at 8:10:04 AM (msg id: 3864771289)
Bide: Option 2: 3rd party (Wholesaler) assigns ISBNs #bisg
Posted by meyercarol on Wed Sep 9th at 8:10:42 AM (msg id: 3864784022)
Bide: Assign yet another identifier like the music industry. Identify at higher level of abstraction. (Like ISTI?) #bisg
Posted by meyercarol on Wed Sep 9th at 8:11:24 AM (msg id: 3864797532)
RT @ftoolan: #BISG MB argues that isbns should be applied to every format of every product.... imho this is unworkable Ljnd: cost cost cost
Posted by ljndawson on Wed Sep 9th at 8:12:14 AM (msg id: 3864813179)
Bide: Music industry identifier: Global Release Identifier [GRiD]-- slow adoption differing practices #bisg
Posted by meyercarol on Wed Sep 9th at 8:12:23 AM (msg id: 3864815822)
Bide: ISTC: fulfills important role, but doesn't replace the ISBN. Its about rights management, not about product #bisg
Posted by meyercarol on Wed Sep 9th at 8:13:07 AM (msg id: 3864830028)
Bide: The Rule: If things have the same metadata, they should have the same ISTC. #bisg
Posted by meyercarol on Wed Sep 9th at 8:13:35 AM (msg id: 3864838486)
#BISG imho ISTC problems are that the same work can have ISTC assigned by many different constituents
Posted by ftoolan on Wed Sep 9th at 8:13:56 AM (msg id: 3864845109)
Bide: Different parties (publishers, librarians, retailers, RROs) want to use identifier for a different work for different purposess #bisg
Posted by meyercarol on Wed Sep 9th at 8:14:57 AM (msg id: 3864864144)
#BISG is it just me? MB seems to be arguing against ISTC?
Posted by ftoolan on Wed Sep 9th at 8:15:49 AM (msg id: 3864880664)
Bide: ISNI: Draft Intl standard for ID-ing names. #bisg
Posted by meyercarol on Wed Sep 9th at 8:16:03 AM (msg id: 3864884938)
Bide: ISNI Drivers: Library name authority; rights management; retail (minor app) #bisg
Posted by meyercarol on Wed Sep 9th at 8:16:50 AM (msg id: 3864899561)
@ftoolan Not my take--I think he's saying it has a different purpose than ISBN #BISG
Posted by meyercarol on Wed Sep 9th at 8:17:31 AM (msg id: 3864912027)
@meyercarol Thanks for the #bisg tweets; I'm interested to hear what's going on
Posted by cmaisannes on Wed Sep 9th at 8:18:23 AM (msg id: 3864928263)
Bide: If you ever need to separate stuff, id them separately from the beginning. Gathering is easier than splitting. #bisg
Posted by meyercarol on Wed Sep 9th at 8:18:35 AM (msg id: 3864931891)
At #BISG annual meeting, Bide from Editeur on Is ISBN dead? Why no discussion of GTIN?
Posted by draccah on Wed Sep 9th at 8:20:00 AM (msg id: 3864957546)
#BISG MB concludes by saying that if we destroy the ISBN we will regret it. [I agree]
Posted by ftoolan on Wed Sep 9th at 8:20:19 AM (msg id: 3864963764)
Alarm interrupting presentations #bisg
Posted by meyercarol on Wed Sep 9th at 8:21:49 AM (msg id: 3864992255)
Up next: Carolyn Pittis, "What are QR Codes?" #bisg
Posted by meyercarol on Wed Sep 9th at 8:22:22 AM (msg id: 3865003062)
Healy bravely soldiers thru a fire alarm #BISG
Posted by ljndawson on Wed Sep 9th at 8:22:57 AM (msg id: 3865013914)
#BISG next up @carolynpittis QS codes. i look forward to this!
Posted by ftoolan on Wed Sep 9th at 8:24:28 AM (msg id: 3865042700)
Pittis: Warning to twitterers not to take talk literally. #bisg
Posted by meyercarol on Wed Sep 9th at 8:31:06 AM (msg id: 3865167612)
Pittis: QR codes aren't very well known in the US. (It's a 2D bar code--Quick Response) #bisg
Posted by meyercarol on Wed Sep 9th at 8:32:15 AM (msg id: 3865189836)
Pittis: Why do I care Put them in print media and get people to interact. #bisg
Posted by meyercarol on Wed Sep 9th at 8:32:41 AM (msg id: 3865198010)
RT @ftoolan: #BISG next up @carolynpittis QS codes. i look forward to this! [oops QR codes] must have been freudian
Posted by ftoolan on Wed Sep 9th at 8:32:41 AM (msg id: 3865198137)
Pittis: Popular in Asia Pacific, 2 years old, invented in Japan #bisg
Posted by meyercarol on Wed Sep 9th at 8:33:26 AM (msg id: 3865212362)
#BISG QR codes only 2 years old; can be read by smart phone; to connect to webiste
Posted by ftoolan on Wed Sep 9th at 8:34:01 AM (msg id: 3865223170)
Pittis: Consumer hold phone to billboard and get additional multimeida content "at an elevated speed". #bisg
Posted by meyercarol on Wed Sep 9th at 8:34:06 AM (msg id: 3865224823)
Pittis: Alternative to SMS codes #bisg
Posted by meyercarol on Wed Sep 9th at 8:34:35 AM (msg id: 3865234196)
#bisg #bisg09 @ftoolan doing a great job of covering bisg meeting
Posted by ngenner on Wed Sep 9th at 8:34:49 AM (msg id: 3865238689)
Pittis: Key point: allows a call to action in ads. Marketing boon. #bisg
Posted by meyercarol on Wed Sep 9th at 8:35:07 AM (msg id: 3865244707)
#BISG allows print based calls to actions - like inside books @carolynpittis
Posted by ftoolan on Wed Sep 9th at 8:35:23 AM (msg id: 3865249643)
Pittis: QR codes-2 dimensional bar codes. Get to multimedia content faster. Download reader to cell phone #BISG.
Posted by draccah on Wed Sep 9th at 8:36:35 AM (msg id: 3865272771)
#BISG allows print based calls to actions - like inside books @carolynpittis (via @ftoolan)
Posted by draccah on Wed Sep 9th at 8:37:06 AM (msg id: 3865281877)
#BISG cell phone outranking PCs as an entertainment device among teens
Posted by ftoolan on Wed Sep 9th at 8:37:37 AM (msg id: 3865291281)
Pittis: Stats say rapid increase in use of cell phones as entertainment among Xers and boomers. (Me: Result of iphone...) #bisg
Posted by meyercarol on Wed Sep 9th at 8:38:19 AM (msg id: 3865304523)
#BISG @carolynpittis younger consumers are making high use of smartphone applications. Can QR codes play a role? interesting
Posted by ftoolan on Wed Sep 9th at 8:39:17 AM (msg id: 3865322180)
@ftoolan cell phones outnumber pcs 10:1 in India #bisg
Posted by andrewsavikas on Wed Sep 9th at 8:39:46 AM (msg id: 3865330954)
looking forward to #alpsp tomorrow - what is it with this week? #BISG & #altc09 also on, trying to follow too many tweets
Posted by iron_mum on Wed Sep 9th at 8:39:54 AM (msg id: 3865333163)
Pittis: explosion in mobile reading. Bullish on cell phones. #BISG
Posted by draccah on Wed Sep 9th at 8:40:04 AM (msg id: 3865336383)
looking forward to #alpsp tomorrow - what is it with this week? #BISG & #altc09 also on, trying to follow too many tweets on too many topics
Posted by bookstothesky on Wed Sep 9th at 8:40:16 AM (msg id: 3865340672)
#BISG @carolynpittis harper put a QR code on a Lauren Conrad book; bigpickup for publicity.
Posted by ftoolan on Wed Sep 9th at 8:40:53 AM (msg id: 3865352507)
@carolynpittis: Case study of Laren Conrad Book where QR codes were successful. #bisg
Posted by meyercarol on Wed Sep 9th at 8:41:20 AM (msg id: 3865360926)
@carolynpittis: Developed a mobile site as response page. 2% response rate, 6000 visits, 50% PCs 25% phones via url, 16% via codes #bisg
Posted by meyercarol on Wed Sep 9th at 8:42:44 AM (msg id: 3865387951)
RT @ngenner #bisg #bisg09 @ftoolan doing a great job of covering bisg meeting
Posted by meghanmac on Wed Sep 9th at 8:43:09 AM (msg id: 3865395715)
#BISG @carolynpittis harper companion site for book: 16% came from the use of the QR code; pretty good considering low knowledge
Posted by ftoolan on Wed Sep 9th at 8:43:25 AM (msg id: 3865400821)
@carolynpittis: What does it mean--we get lots of data about how people are accessing it. #bisg
Posted by meyercarol on Wed Sep 9th at 8:43:37 AM (msg id: 3865404660)
@carolynpittis: Problem--nobody knows, nobody's using them. #bisg
Posted by meyercarol on Wed Sep 9th at 8:44:32 AM (msg id: 3865422024)
As is @meyercarol - RT @ngenner: @ftoolan doing a great job of covering bisg meeting #bisg #bisg09
Posted by SueB24 on Wed Sep 9th at 8:45:48 AM (msg id: 3865446489)
#BISG @carolynpittis harper repackaged an oldviampire series, added qr code, added relevant TV partner - cross platform!
Posted by ftoolan on Wed Sep 9th at 8:46:32 AM (msg id: 3865460977)
@carolynpittis: Marketers using QR codes as sexy and mysterious: Vampire titles, Tim Burton field examples #bisg
Posted by meyercarol on Wed Sep 9th at 8:47:32 AM (msg id: 3865479750)
#BISG @carolynpittis believes that QR codes from 0 to 60 like twitter. v, successful in asia; harper doing more
Posted by ftoolan on Wed Sep 9th at 8:48:17 AM (msg id: 3865494076)
#BISG @carolynpittis QR codes can help make books relevent among a cluttered media landscape
Posted by ftoolan on Wed Sep 9th at 8:49:17 AM (msg id: 3865512698)
#BISG @carolynpittis QR codes can help make a direct relationship between publisher and reader. very cool
Posted by ftoolan on Wed Sep 9th at 8:50:09 AM (msg id: 3865529479)
Up next: Healy "Book RIghts Registry" #bisg
Posted by meyercarol on Wed Sep 9th at 8:50:46 AM (msg id: 3865541703)
nice presentation from @carolynpittis on QR codes #bisg (here's an example, btw: http://twitpic.com/h35o1
Posted by andrewsavikas on Wed Sep 9th at 8:59:58 AM (msg id: 3865718933)
Great info coming out of #BISG today! Must investigate the QR codes... very cool!
Posted by tsutrav on Wed Sep 9th at 9:07:04 AM (msg id: 3865862782)
Change of plans next up Brad Inman on The Future of Reading #bisg
Posted by meyercarol on Wed Sep 9th at 9:14:07 AM (msg id: 3866002152)
nice presentation from @carolynpittis on QR codes #bisg (here's an example, btw: http://twitpic.com/h35o1 (via @andrewsavikas)
Posted by draccah on Wed Sep 9th at 9:14:26 AM (msg id: 3866008287)
Inman: Small part of Vook business: video profiles of authors--not "pan & scan" photos, but get into the head of the authors #bisg
Posted by meyercarol on Wed Sep 9th at 9:20:40 AM (msg id: 3866131966)
Inman: Book industry in change, innovation, fear, hand-wringing, emerging standards. Where he wants to be. #bisg
Posted by meyercarol on Wed Sep 9th at 9:21:20 AM (msg id: 3866145289)
#BISG pertinent to ISBN discussion http://tr.im/ygn0 (via @mobileread @jafurtado)
Posted by ftoolan on Wed Sep 9th at 9:22:13 AM (msg id: 3866162551)
Inman: Blend video with text--Vook equals Video + Book #bisg
Posted by meyercarol on Wed Sep 9th at 9:22:33 AM (msg id: 3866169052)
More here: http://vook.com/ #bisg
Posted by meyercarol on Wed Sep 9th at 9:22:58 AM (msg id: 3866177305)
Inman: Trends: 1) books moving online to an eager audience 2) explosion of creative internet video digested 3) device market opening #bisg
Posted by meyercarol on Wed Sep 9th at 9:28:06 AM (msg id: 3866277971)
#BISG Inman: some demographics consume other medias (video) easier than they do books - opportunity for browser is profound
Posted by ftoolan on Wed Sep 9th at 9:28:12 AM (msg id: 3866280093)
Inman: convergence of three trends means opportunity #bisg
Posted by meyercarol on Wed Sep 9th at 9:28:46 AM (msg id: 3866291196)
Inman: Kindle can save newspapers--resurrecting content #bisg
Posted by meyercarol on Wed Sep 9th at 9:29:43 AM (msg id: 3866309542)
Inman: Multimedia is text, video, social media together. Kindle isn't ideal for this. #bisg
Posted by meyercarol on Wed Sep 9th at 9:30:22 AM (msg id: 3866322833)
Inman: Need browser-based experience for integration, and large audience. #bisg
Posted by meyercarol on Wed Sep 9th at 9:31:28 AM (msg id: 3866345071)
#BISG Inman: multiImedia is video+text+social networking
Posted by ftoolan on Wed Sep 9th at 9:32:09 AM (msg id: 3866358973)
#BISG Inman - portability + access + content = consumers
Posted by ftoolan on Wed Sep 9th at 9:34:15 AM (msg id: 3866401086)
Inman: On devises--who cares, somebody will figure it out. Notes netbook's surprising success. Portable, wireless, supports video. #bisg
Posted by meyercarol on Wed Sep 9th at 9:34:23 AM (msg id: 3866403571)
Inman: Sorry, devices, not devises. duh. #bisg
Posted by meyercarol on Wed Sep 9th at 9:35:06 AM (msg id: 3866417556)
#BISG Inman (vook) testing reading + watching + reading novella this fall
Posted by ftoolan on Wed Sep 9th at 9:36:58 AM (msg id: 3866454786)
Inman: Browser or iphone apps will be short form. Doesn't mean the end of long form. #bisg
Posted by meyercarol on Wed Sep 9th at 9:37:26 AM (msg id: 3866463677)
Inman: Funny short form videos to learn vocab. www.vocabvideos.com #bisg
Posted by meyercarol on Wed Sep 9th at 9:38:23 AM (msg id: 3866482194)
#BISG Inman vook geared toward breaking up long form text into more consumable pieces of text and video in the browser experience
Posted by ftoolan on Wed Sep 9th at 9:39:05 AM (msg id: 3866495970)
Back to Michael Healy about Google Books Settlement, Book Rights Registry #bisg
Posted by meyercarol on Wed Sep 9th at 9:40:07 AM (msg id: 3866516498)
#BISG @mhealy GBS - Book Rights registry - data challenges
Posted by ftoolan on Wed Sep 9th at 9:42:39 AM (msg id: 3866567439)
Healy Not the "spawn of Google" Indepent non-profit org. brr #bisg
Posted by meyercarol on Wed Sep 9th at 9:42:50 AM (msg id: 3866570981)
Healy: 50% of books digitized by Google from outside US. brr #bisg
Posted by meyercarol on Wed Sep 9th at 9:43:46 AM (msg id: 3866589169)
#BISG @mhealy BRR is an independent entity managed by pubs & authors
Posted by ftoolan on Wed Sep 9th at 9:44:12 AM (msg id: 3866597464)
#bisg09 not being used so much. Looks like tweeting coming in through #BISG or just BISG. @ftoolan, @ljdawson & @meyercarol all tweeting.
Posted by draccah on Wed Sep 9th at 9:44:20 AM (msg id: 3866600153)
Healy: Mission to identify rightsholders to enable them to participate in settlement and exercise control over their works brr #bisg
Posted by meyercarol on Wed Sep 9th at 9:45:09 AM (msg id: 3866616366)
#BISG @mhealy BRR mission is to identify rightsholders; support work w/ Google; distribute 63% of rev to rightsholder
Posted by ftoolan on Wed Sep 9th at 9:46:28 AM (msg id: 3866642587)
#BISG Michael Healy: Books Rights Registry is "not the spawn of Google."
Posted by carolynpittis on Wed Sep 9th at 9:48:33 AM (msg id: 3866683583)
#BISG can see how ISNI will be very important to/ possibly assigned by BRR or a partner
Posted by ftoolan on Wed Sep 9th at 9:50:48 AM (msg id: 3866728297)
Healy Authors agents publishers RROs will use web interface 2 register, search, claim, express prefs of use/price, update metadata brr #bisg
Posted by meyercarol on Wed Sep 9th at 9:51:03 AM (msg id: 3866733305)
#BISG can see how ISNI will be very important to/ possibly assigned by BRR or a partner (via @ftoolan)
Posted by draccah on Wed Sep 9th at 9:51:46 AM (msg id: 3866747446)
Healy: Settlement entitles rightsholders to express preferences for display, pricing, outright removal. All needs metadata. brr #bisg
Posted by meyercarol on Wed Sep 9th at 9:52:40 AM (msg id: 3866764922)
#BISG BRR is going to need to ingest a lot of data, starting with data from Google
Posted by ftoolan on Wed Sep 9th at 9:53:39 AM (msg id: 3866784210)
#BISG Will the Book Rights Registry be live before the Second Avenue Subway?
Posted by carolynpittis on Wed Sep 9th at 9:53:43 AM (msg id: 3866785477)
Healy: Much data will come from Google (existing claiming website). brr #bisg
Posted by meyercarol on Wed Sep 9th at 9:53:44 AM (msg id: 3866785910)
Healy: G data will need to be checked by licensed metadata from commercial bibliographic sources, & union & library catalogs brr #bisg
Posted by meyercarol on Wed Sep 9th at 9:54:59 AM (msg id: 3866810250)
Healy: Out of print headache--titles may be in print in one country but not in another. The correct metadata will be key. brr #bisg
Posted by meyercarol on Wed Sep 9th at 9:57:21 AM (msg id: 3866857810)
#BISG @mhealy BRR will be licensing metadata sources. Lots of dev work (big $$) (wish I had that budget)
Posted by ftoolan on Wed Sep 9th at 9:58:53 AM (msg id: 3866887705)
Healy: Reporting: Settlement very specific about what reports are due to Google. Specilized reports will also be req by BRR mgt. brr #bisg
Posted by meyercarol on Wed Sep 9th at 10:00:10 AM (msg id: 3866913497)
Healy: brr #bisg [me--the whole thing reminds me of Jarndyce v. Jarndyce. Will there be anything left for the rightsholders?]
Posted by meyercarol on Wed Sep 9th at 10:00:50 AM (msg id: 3866928772)
Healy: Predisposed to use existing stds: ISBN, ISTC, ISNI. Multiple manifestations of multiple scans a common issue--ISTC use. brr #bisg
Posted by meyercarol on Wed Sep 9th at 10:04:05 AM (msg id: 3866996659)
Healy: May have to create new identifiers before new standards adopted. brr #bisg
Posted by meyercarol on Wed Sep 9th at 10:05:44 AM (msg id: 3867031411)
Healy: Legal path uncertain, Healy working on implementation. brr #bisg
Posted by meyercarol on Wed Sep 9th at 10:06:24 AM (msg id: 3867045005)
Battery dying, must head to airport. Enjoyed my first #bisg
Posted by meyercarol on Wed Sep 9th at 10:06:51 AM (msg id: 3867054099)
#BISG Tom Turvey Google up next
Posted by ftoolan on Wed Sep 9th at 10:08:47 AM (msg id: 3867092609)
#BISG TT 2million books 30,000 publishers in Google Edition partner program
Posted by ftoolan on Wed Sep 9th at 10:10:59 AM (msg id: 3867137545)
#BISG TT. Google books 2.0 about letting others access APIs - especially retailers. Turning discovery into commerce
Posted by ftoolan on Wed Sep 9th at 10:12:51 AM (msg id: 3867175530)
#BISG TT. Google books 2.0 about letting others access APIs - especially retailers. Turning discovery into commerce (via @ftoolan)
Posted by draccah on Wed Sep 9th at 10:13:37 AM (msg id: 3867191398)
RT @ftoolan: #BISG Tom Turvey: Google books 2.0 about letting others access APIs - especially retailers. Turning discovery into commerce.
Posted by DigiBookWorld on Wed Sep 9th at 10:14:35 AM (msg id: 3867211357)
#BISG TT in cloud buy anywhere read anywhere (as long as there is access to internet)
Posted by ftoolan on Wed Sep 9th at 10:14:53 AM (msg id: 3867217236)
between apple's rock and roll an #bisg, my tiny head is going to explode.
Posted by KatMeyer on Wed Sep 9th at 10:18:18 AM (msg id: 3867287176)
#BISG TT depending on browser experience (so is vook). HTML5 will b v. Important
Posted by ftoolan on Wed Sep 9th at 10:20:50 AM (msg id: 3867337286)
#BISG TT deloivering book content to a browser caching for offline access either with DRM or without
Posted by ftoolan on Wed Sep 9th at 10:24:13 AM (msg id: 3867405488)
RT @ftoolan: #BISG @mhealy BRR will be licensing metadata sources Lots of dev work (big $) (wish I had that budget) -*huge potential impact*
Posted by TAC_NISO on Wed Sep 9th at 10:34:53 AM (msg id: 3867581555)
RT @ftoolan #BISG Google books 2.0 about letting others access APIs - especially retailers. Turning discovery into commerce
Posted by shanakimball on Wed Sep 9th at 10:46:31 AM (msg id: 3867718622)
So much going on today: #NISO, #BISG, #Linkeddata, #alpsp, #apple --> twitter overload!
Posted by TAC_NISO on Wed Sep 9th at 10:55:47 AM (msg id: 3867890263)

 

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